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From David Blevins <>
Subject Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator
Date Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:27:10 GMT
If you ask me what my opinion on OpenEJB's future or James' opinion  
on ActiveMQ's future, we'll both probably tell you TLP is a good goal  

We've more or less been running as TLPs in relation to Geronimo for  
the past two plus years already, just at Codehaus.  We've seen how  
that plays out and we'd like to try a much more unified front for a  
while and see what shakes out.  We're all ready for a change in the  

The Geronimo world is awkward and unbalanced.  We have too tight  
integration with OpenEJB such that the standalone version of that  
completely disappeared.  We have too little integration with ActiveMQ  
such that the things you can do with standalone ActiveMQ you can't do  
with the Geronimo ActiveMQ.  We have parts of Geronimo which could  
very well become separately reusable components, like the transaction  
manager or the XBean code.  We're aren't successfully leveraging each  
other's communities to the fullest.  All in all, we don't make  
decisions together and lean on each other as much as we could.

I'd really like to see all our projects rolled up, balanced out, then  
split up again along possibly different lines with potentially more  
standalone pieces than we see now.

TLP is a good goal, but I really see value in the journey.


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