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From Rodent of Unusual Size <Ken.C...@Golux.Com>
Subject Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator
Date Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:37:16 GMT
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Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> 
> Just to make sure this was allowed, before pitching it to the 
> communities, I asked a few of the Board members at Euro OS con and 
> they said it was possible.  I didn't want to get into a situation 
> where we do all of the work to uproot and move exiting communities 
> and then end up with just a bunch of separate TLPs because of some 
> unknown apache rules.  Now it seem like that is exactly what will 
> happen.

Why do you say that?  Noel has stated his current *personal* opinion,
and his *personal* opinion of board policy as

> Keep in mind that the ASF Board has established a pretty conscious
> decision for projects to go TLP, and to disband umbrella projects.

IMHO, a podling that was envisioned as joining an existing TLP
will end up doing so unless there are really good reasons for it
to go TLP instead.  The only time (again IMHO) that the collective
desires of the specific communities involved (in this case,
AMQ and Geronimo) would be overruled is if the determination
is made that such a merger would not make sense or would not
be in the best interests of the ASF.    As an hypothetical
example, I very much doubt that a podling for a pattern
recognition filtering package would be allowed to join the HTTP
Server project, despite being originally intended for filtering
server logs.  A traffic-filtering module written to the httpd
API would be unlikely to go anywhere else.  An IRC server based
on the httpd framework might go either way.

It's not just rhe podling's and sponsor's communities that need
to be considered, although they're by far the biggest part.  It's
also the overall Apache community that needs to be factored in.
If going subproject is considered to be likely to be harmful to
the ASF, it won't happen.  Otherwise it probably will.

All IMHO.
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Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist      http://Apache-Server.Com/

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