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From "Henri Yandell" <flame...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator
Date Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:56:06 GMT
On 3/15/06, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
> Henri Yandell wrote:
> > On 3/15/06, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> - The presence of ActiveCluster/ActiveIO which were separate projects
> >>> in codehaus (is the active cluster code inside the milestone? i don't
> >>> see a separate jar).
> >>>
> >>>
> >> These are two small libraries used in AMQ that don't warrant their own
> >> project.  The original founders of those projects had big aspirations at
> >> the time they were formed at the CodeHaus a few years back.  If they had
> >> known what was in store for their future, maybe it would have been done
> >> differently.  Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.
> >>
> >>
> >>> - The lack of discussion on say the OpenWire stuff. I see one status
> >>> email[1] that's it. the other 26 people don't seem to have any opinion
> >>> on it. Are people talking offline?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> OpenWire has been around for a long time, way before incubation, so most
> >> of the development issues were worked out a long time ago.   You'll see
> >> bursts of traffic about it as people add new language bindings.
> >> However,  I see a lot of discussion about it this month.  A large bulk
> >> of the communication on the AMQ list is about OpenWire C/C++.
> >>
> >
> > Sorry to harp on a bit more with generic opinions that may or may not apply :)
> >
> > A 3-deep umbrella is another warning sign. I've found that the
> > subprojects of subprojects are much harder for a PMC to maintain
> > oversight over - given that they can't have sub-PMCs as such would be
> > an example of redundant foundationing. Over the time many of the PMC
> > don't even know that they exist.
> >
>
> Good point but I'm not sure that it applies here.  OpenWire is an
> architectural component of AMQ.

Scandalous - you're suggesting I should actually understand things
before making wide sweeping statements? :)

Hopefully I'll get better at that (understanding - expect the
statements to continue) - my last job involved lots of JMS and I
always had a todo of looking to see how easy it would be to move to
ActiveMQ [not that I could have achieved that politically - we'd moved
from JBossMQ to Fiorano a few years previously]. Even been writing a
simple JMS implementation recently, though more as an exercise and
excuse to work with an old friend than a serious project.

I'd meant it to refer to ActiveCluster/ActiveIO as well; but good to
know OpenWire isn't a subproject of ActiveMQ.

Hen

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