From general-return-7873-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Feb 15 23:05:04 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 2491 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2006 23:05:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Feb 2006 23:05:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18143 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2006 23:05:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18028 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2006 23:05:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18017 invoked by uid 99); 15 Feb 2006 23:05:01 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:05:01 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_IMS,INVALID_MSGID X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [155.91.6.40] (HELO usryim05.merck.com) (155.91.6.40) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:05:00 -0800 Received: from 155.91.2.6 by usryim05.merck.com with ESMTP (SMTP Relay); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:30 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: A6D88DB6-305E-4C65-A4F6-648158ED4776 Received: from 54.3.102.168 by usrytw31.merck.com with ESMTP (Tumbleweed Email Firewall SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.1.1)); Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:25 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: E1D334D3-E18D-4307-83C1-2B84D3407A0B Received: by usrygw31.merck.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2658.27) id ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:04:25 -0500 Message-ID: BC3669BB2DFBCF4FA39F21CF6ABD9B9A From: "Stein, Neil S" To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:02:15 -0500 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2658.27) X-WSS-ID: 6FED6CF32CW10808767-01-01 X-WSS-ID: 6FED6CE02TW8020807-05-01 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Great, thanks for the details. -neil -----Original Message----- From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net] Sent: Wed 2/15/2006 5:57 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2 The current guidelines are simply to avoid clashes, adn that guideline cited the nameprotect.com utility which is now a pay-for-use facility. I personally find googling a project far more useful, and there appear to be no conflicts with your new proposal, other than the fact that another project, Echo, seems to have floated the same potential name. As long as we clarify with them that they haven't/won't adopt that project name we should be fine. The end goal is little to no ambiguity when someone googles a given ASF project, after hearing something about it that attracts their interest. We don't want any project to be lost in the noise. Bill Stein, Neil S wrote: > hi -- I guess I am a little confused. It is very possible that any name can fall into an area that may conflict. Are the guidelines or a branding process for new projects? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net] > Sent: Wed 2/15/2006 3:45 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2 > > http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/NameItEchoConflict > > :) > > We should probably check with that group that they discarded that choice. > > Stein, Neil S wrote: > >>If Ohana proves to have enough negative drivers, >>The name can go to Apache Lokahi >>Which translates to "harmony and unity." >> >>http://rosasay.typepad.com/mwacalendar/2005/03/lkahi.html >> >> >> >> >>Neil Stein >>phone -- 908-423-4297 >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net] >>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:17 PM >>To: general@incubator.apache.org; Stein, Neil S >>Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2 >> >> >>Beyond the mark issue, it really seems like there are far too many hits on >>Ohana project, Ohana software e.t.c. to easily distinguish this name. >> >>Does anyone else consider this a showstopper and time to pick another name? >>Neil, what are your thoughts, as it's primary champion? >> >>Bill >> >>Justin Erenkrantz wrote: >> >> >>>On 2/15/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>project name, I think we shouldn't have any issues. Is "Apache Ohana" >> >>enough >> >> >>>>of a multiword mark, though? >>> >>> >>>I believe so. -- justin >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>>For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >>>. >>> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck & Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp & Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. 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