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From: Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>
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To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Committer karma for Incubator Projects
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:08:44 +0800
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On Saturday 18 February 2006 14:42, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> The process is that the PPMC should be voting, just as we would in any
> project. =A0The process has nothing to do with the policy (whom, how many,
> etc.).

Side note; I have hanged around ASF a long time as many others. A long time=
=20
ago votes were fairly rare and formal. Nowadays, votes are flying left, rig=
ht=20
and center.  What happened to the good'ol "Community Consensus", which didn=
't=20
require votes?

> > I can't see any benefit of the three mentors doing a
> > person-by-person vetting process.
>
> Who said that they would? =A0And the first thing that I suggested that the
> PPMC do is vote Bill Flood and Ismael onto the PPMC.

So, are we seeing a new policy being formed??

 1. Get N mentors to back a proposal.
 2. These mentors form the initial PPMC.
 3. The regular "Apache Way" process takes over.
 4. A "mega patch" in form of "initial codebase" constitutes commitment and=
=20
likelihood of committer status.


Maybe not. My point is; Last year's project, Harmony notable exception,=20
started with an initial set of committers. *Now* this has been changed. Why=
?=20
Becase instead of 6 person strong (or weak) initial committership list, we=
=20
now see a much stronger initial community, 37 people, many who will probabl=
y=20
be more active than "freeriders" on other projects? It doesn't make sense...

Over and out.

Niclas

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