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From Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Why rewind? (Re: Let's rewind!!! (Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project)
Date Thu, 02 Feb 2006 19:40:48 GMT
James,

With my Geronimo PMC member hat on. i've already cast my VOTE
(http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=geronimo-dev&m=113889773909505&w=2).

Now that i have your attention :) and i have a bit more information
that i did not have before, but i still think a standalone BPEL
vibrant project is a necessary addition to our aresenal and things
should not get buried under layers of projects and become a check mark
on a marketing wish list for someone.

So reiterating, I would like the donors to work with incubator
directly, write a complete proposal with pros and cons, show up with
people who will continue working on the project including the existing
servicemix community and others who may wish to join and follow the
incubator process for setting up a new project given the stand alone
nature of the code and its supposed completeness.

thanks,
dims

On 2/2/06, James Strachan <james.strachan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2 Feb 2006, at 18:36, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > There is no proposal, there is just a zip, unless someone is a
> > clairvoyant, we can't figure out things like.
>
> We were first voting to see if the servicemix community and geronimo
> PMC were willing to accept the donation. Given it fits nicely with
> the existing ServiceMix incubation proposal I see no need for a new
> proposal for a donation of code to an existing incubating project.
>
>
> > *PLEASE* CC
> > general@incubator.
>
> Will do.
>
>
> > - Which specific version of the spec is implemented?
> > - Where are the list of known issues?
> > - Where is the TODO list?
>
> We were gonna update the status document of ServiceMix if folks voted
> to accept it. We are still in incubation
>
>
> > - Why is Axis version 1.2 RC1 (and not even Axis 1.2 final even if we
> > forget that the current version is Axis 1.3)
>
> I don't see the version of a jar as influencing whether or not we
> accept a contribution.
>
>
> > - Is there any relation to workflow?
>
> Not really, its an orchestration engine for an ESB so as I've already
> said its very well suited to the ServiceMix project and first well
> within its scope.
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ServiceMixProposal
>
>
> > - Is there no opportunity for interaction with our Existing incubation
> > project Agila?
>
> We'll see - lets first vote to accept the patch then let the
> community decide those things down the road.
>
>
> > - Are there people from sybase who will be working?
>
> Yes
>
>
> > - Geronimo is becoming an umbrella rapidly and now ServiceMix wants to
> > be one too?
>
> Not at all - this is just some code being donated to the ServiceMix
> project. No umbrella.
>
>
> > - Why are people talking as though the code is FINAL
>
> Its a stable implementation that does what it says on the tin. See
> the test cases for example
>
>
> > - Do *ANY* of the existing servicemix committers know this code
> > inside out?
>
> We've looked pretty closely at it and really like it.
>
>
> > - If people are not going to touch this contrib code with a barge pole
> > then why should it be accepted?
>
> As I already said in reply to Ken; there are quire a few commiters
> simply itching to work on the code and some contributors from Sybase
> too.
>
> James
> -------
> http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/
>
>


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Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/

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