Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 38650 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2006 16:43:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 16:43:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 3524 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2006 16:43:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3428 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2006 16:43:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3417 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jan 2006 16:43:46 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:43:46 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: 64.74.244.71 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of geir@pobox.com) Received: from [64.74.244.71] (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (64.74.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:43:45 -0800 Received: (qmail 1723 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2006 16:43:23 -0000 Received: from ool-43560634.dyn.optonline.net (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (geir@67.86.6.52) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 16:43:23 -0000 Message-ID: <43BAA9AA.6060002@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:43:22 -0500 From: Geir Magnusson Jr Reply-To: geir@pobox.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [policy] bring in full code history on incubated project? References: <4C2735AC-FA28-4584-BECD-4B43244852A5@apache.org> <43BA8CC0.6020102@mortbay.com> In-Reply-To: <43BA8CC0.6020102@mortbay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Jules Gosnell wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> Sorry to change the subject... >> >> Can someone make a definitive statement on whether or not code >> history is brought into our repo from elsewhere when a podling brings >> code over? >> >> > > I don't see how the incubator can hold a single position on this one. > > There are good reasons both for and against, depending on your project. > We certainly can have a position, and then deal with exceptions. > Rather than making a decision which is bound to fly in the face of some > potential incubatees, why can it not simply be left to individual > projects to decide for themselves? Because IMO the primary purpose of the incubator is to protect and promote the ASFs interests, not of the candidate individual projects. That's SourceForge. > > My understanding of the incubator's role, was that issues like this did > not have to be resolved until a project sought promotion up out of the > incubator. Well, things have to be complete by then, but this is a case of where if you don't do it from the beginning, you can't fix it later, unless you've made no changes to the code. > > At this point, I might reasonably expect to have to shed a project > history - if its acceptance into a first-level ASF repo caused problems > - and live with a history divided between two repos. > > Why, though, a passage to this point, via the incubator, should further > fragment a project, and leave me with my history in three places, I do > not understand. > > Isn't the incubator meant to lower the bar for projects wishing to > migrate into ASF ? Where would the three places be? I can see two if we don't take history and only one if we do - here, at the ASF. geir > > > Jules (WADI) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org