Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 24288 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2006 16:20:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jan 2006 16:20:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 99923 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2006 16:20:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 99541 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2006 16:20:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 99529 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jan 2006 16:20:18 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:20:18 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of hedhman@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.194 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.162.194] (HELO zproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.162.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:20:17 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m22so3616615nzf for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:19:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:sender; b=Cp51fu3YGTZY1PPc87C7vkspakryXbQq4IoLS+WtWuwyunPDZnrd+Dkt1FwRFwWULE9Ot1hol9ohtPsYKWXhNnCSSmWUnf3M1W0eeoFY4Gp8m4DDtBb79eptw6CpMq6PbaKZB5ni2oLmG5FUKAUXw54OlSUt4FpUK4ymH7VK84U= Received: by 10.37.20.33 with SMTP id x33mr11662163nzi; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:19:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.88.129? ( [203.121.47.21]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 5sm1113626nzk.2006.01.08.08.19.55; Sun, 08 Jan 2006 08:19:56 -0800 (PST) From: Niclas Hedhman Organization: Independent To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate TMCg2] Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 00:19:28 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <43C091FF.4080005@rowe-clan.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200601090019.29105.niclas@hedhman.org> Sender: Niclas Hedhman X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Sunday 08 January 2006 15:15, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > I don't see it. =A0If you think this is under incubation, then you need > to start by creating a status page that reflects the actual resources > being requested and by whom. =A0After that, I suggest you find out the > actual list of committers. Does this means that we are likely to see some increased requirements for=20 projects to enter incubation?? * Multiple mentors? * +1 vote indicating true commitment of resources? * Limited number of podlings under one's mentorship? * Multiple instances of approval? * Stronger ties within the ASF? * Lesser ties with commercial interests? * Bigger differentiation of podlings initial entry point? Personally, I think something is required to change, and especially about=20 mentorship. Some projects under incubation has good mentors, in others they= =20 seem fairly 'quiet' and sometimes other people are providing the actual=20 mentoring. Cheers Niclas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org