Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 86694 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2006 04:28:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Jan 2006 04:28:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 38110 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jan 2006 04:28:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38020 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jan 2006 04:28:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38002 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jan 2006 04:28:41 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:28:41 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of mfncooper@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.196 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.196] (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.196) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:28:41 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so612574wra for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:28:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FqUK3Eb5QxMBMx2+nmFcY8tKzxg7SbessFfl+hJ1a6jDDhcAPavV4gmQFJWKg8neR0FISeYWRr3VP5IR+jGSafGz9MoIincC8ENKMJWgYJ9/HAKCB+FWiQhuWJyu/xBMWb7E5Km1XXS52AxKPO/nx88gkYWmKFmx05q5wDpcyAk= Received: by 10.65.156.2 with SMTP id i2mr1115684qbo; Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.97.6 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:28:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <16d6c6200601042028j513849bcpb9f9f221014fc6e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:28:30 -0800 From: Martin Cooper Sender: mfncooper@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: ajax proposal? In-Reply-To: <43BC8312.5060500@envoisolutions.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15803_16209013.1136435310133" References: <1136413966.6167.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <16d6c6200601041750h369d85e8y26d6d827d0144230@mail.gmail.com> <43BC8312.5060500@envoisolutions.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ------=_Part_15803_16209013.1136435310133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 1/4/06, Dan Diephouse wrote: > > Martin Cooper wrote: > > On 1/4/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > > >> So .. amidst all of our soul searching .. what'd we decide to do with > >> the Ajax proposal from IBM et al.?? Did I miss the vote and decision?? > >> > > > > > > I don't believe there is a sponsoring PMC at this point. > > > > Personally, I would prefer that the ASF not accept _any_ AJAX framework > at > > this point in time. The area is relatively new and in a great deal of > flux > > right now, and "crowning" one of them with the ASF brand will create a > de > > facto standard instead of letting the market decide, whether we like it > or > > not. > > > > I realise that the Incubator doesn't work that way, though, and that > plenty > > of people don't seem to care / mind that we'd create a (premature, IMHO= ) > de > > facto standard, but I can always hope. ;-) > > > I am confused - why can't there be multiple ajax projects at somepoint? I don't recall saying there could not. What I am saying is that, were one t= o come here now, it would rapidly become the de facto standard simply by virtue of being here at the ASF. And once there is a de facto standard, man= y people won't even bother to look elsewhere, or bother to evaluate its merit= s or lack of them, because they've already got license, so to speak, to use ASF software. In fact, if we have to have Zimbra here, I would be right with you in hopin= g something better turns up sooner rather than later. ;-) -- Martin Cooper As the perlers say, "there is more than one way to do things." See my > note in a previous thread about multiple web app frameworks, etc, etc[1]. > > - Dan > > 1. > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200512.mbox/%3= c43A87503.6030907@envoisolutions.com%3e > > > -- > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > Sanjiva. > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- > Dan Diephouse > Envoi Solutions LLC > http://netzooid.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > ------=_Part_15803_16209013.1136435310133--