From general-return-7267-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Jan 18 09:52:10 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 9371 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2006 09:52:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Jan 2006 09:52:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 19188 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jan 2006 09:51:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18848 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jan 2006 09:51:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18837 invoked by uid 99); 18 Jan 2006 09:51:55 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:51:55 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [137.194.32.27] (HELO smtp2.enst.fr) (137.194.32.27) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:51:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost.enst.fr [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588D0164C63 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:51:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.enst.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (revol1.enst.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49876-01 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:51:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from baradur.aptiwan.com (aptiwan-web.enst.fr [137.194.2.55]) by smtp2.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0828164BA4 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:51:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baradur.aptiwan.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2091501ED for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:28:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43CE0FA2.705@apache.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:51:30 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Luta?= Organization: ASF User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: ajax proposal? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at enst.fr X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Raphaël Luta wrote: > >>along with [a] codebase come an established group of committers >>with an interest in keeping their current architecture or at >>least backward compatibility > > That carries a fairly large assumption, and really should be posed as a > question, not an answer. > I thought it would be safe to assume that Zimbra collaboration suite uses the AjaxTk. If it doesn't then I'm even more worried about that codebase ;) >>An established codebase is *much* more difficult to restructure >>than starting from scratch. > > Apache SOAP -> Apache Axis > Tomcat 3 -> Tomcat 4 -> Tomcat 5 -> Tomcat 5.5 ... > Jetspeed 1 -> Jetspeed 2 ;-) > My point exactly ! (and you could add httpd 1.x -> httpd 2.x) Most of these transitions have not been a smooth ride even though they are successful: it takes time and a resilient community to manage these. -- Raphaël Luta - raphael@apache.org Apache Portals - Enterprise Portal in Java http://portals.apache.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org