From general-return-7010-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Jan 03 04:43:21 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 3160 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2006 04:43:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Jan 2006 04:43:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 78048 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2006 04:43:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77934 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jan 2006 04:43:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77923 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jan 2006 04:43:16 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:43:16 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of davanum@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.195 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.195] (HELO xproxy.gmail.com) (66.249.82.195) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:43:15 -0800 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s12so1636813wxc for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:42:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jpV4IzvkzHkGuVSsJHgN8dI35txbXDkGwA0Bm6idurfgLvRZ4UgVxHd+7kp8aNqK6T++0tDDJ+cPH/aGfcvRbMKwl+wDCKmww53JVRGTIVwwWF4VUzlrfF1FXTKqioD5SxGMJvnd0rawMHxhc019Q8jlFWYBB5qONpEreWohwK8= Received: by 10.11.98.74 with SMTP id v74mr167702cwb; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.11.122.64 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:42:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19e0530f0601022042j446701cev470b49e471371b1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 23:42:54 -0500 From: Davanum Srinivas Reply-To: dims@apache.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Collecting Proposed changes In-Reply-To: <9e3862d80601021827r5661f409vd705d8d6519bb047@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <19e0530f0512311138h198ae7fdmdee0c2e96a3fe001@mail.gmail.com> <9e3862d80601021827r5661f409vd705d8d6519bb047@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Brett, Let's take Tuscany, If the WS PMC had voted on the proposal before it hit general@incubator, it would have probably passed the pmc VOTE. and incubator would have had to accept it as-is. however fortunately, the proposal was sent directly to g@i and Roy (and others) had quite a few problems with it which got fixed. So it was a good decision in hind sight that the people who proposed tuscany went to general@incubator first. thanks, dims On 1/2/06, Brett Porter wrote: > Some thoughts: > > # [ ] - Any proposal should hit general@incubator first, No PR before tha= t. > # [ ] - Any PR should be vetted by PRC, No Excuses. > > Agree, for the Apache side of things. I'm not sure we can stop > companies doing what they are going to do, but we can certainly say > that that they shouldn't be doing so and list the reasons why (because > it mighr not be accepted, might have a different name, etc). > > Also, please define "PR". Recent examples seem to think that an > individual member of the proposal's personal blog is PR, which I'm not > sure I agree with. > > # [ ] - A sponsoring PMC should hold their VOTE to sponsor a proposal > or IP Clearance 72 hours *AFTER* it is posted on general@incubator > > Seems back to front to me. How can you propose anything to the > incubator that you haven't decided you want to do? > > - Brett > > On 1/1/06, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Please review the items here: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ProposedChanges > > > > Please feel free to add/modify/delete or start a new thread here on > > any issue that you care about. Let's give it a week and then ask the > > incubator PMC to VOTE on items on that page. > > > > thanks, > > dims > > > > -- > > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org