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From David Crossley <cross...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [RT] Super Simple Site Generation Tool
Date Mon, 02 Jan 2006 02:52:11 GMT
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Leo Simons wrote:
> > 
> > > I think what it comes down to is what we want here for the
> > > incubator is a "stable", or preferably "mature" tool, and
> > > forrest really is currently too much of a moving target
> > 
> > That can be addressed, in part, by packaging Forrest in our site build
> > structure, so that when you checkout the Incubator site, you get everything
> > you need to build it.  We do that with JAMES; everything you need comes with
> > the checkout, including the specific versions of ant, phoenix, DBCP, etc.,
> > that we use.  All in that one tree.  And when you're done, if you delete the
> > tree, there are no droppings left elsewhere.
> 
> How would even having a local copy of the JARs prevent the problem that
> Forrest won't actually generate the site?  That was the issue Geir had.

As has been endlessly exlained elsewhere in this thread,
it was a simple issue where the user removed the only
link to the page in question.

> As far as I can tell, Forrest will only work with a "ForrestBot" and a
> "staging server" - it doesn't support a model where a local build is
> sufficient to regenerate the site.

Totally incorrect as has been explained elsewhere.

> (Ross said that he is proposing that
> Forrest be able to do that in the future; but they don't do it now.)
> 
> Don't get me wrong; having everything included in incubator/site *is* a
> requirement.  The only thing a user should bring to the table is a JVM.
> As demonstrated elsewhere, Anakia works exactly like that.
> 
> > > I'm not going to be "happy" until I have a site generation tool I can
> > > basically "forget about".
> > 
> > That's a fair, but potentially orthogonal issue.
> 
> It's central to the whole discussion.  If I have to spend any time thinking
> about Forrest, it means that I'm not thinking about the content.  -- justin

I was not brave enough to package Forrest into Incubator
SVN for fear of complaints about its size.

-David

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