Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 91019 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2005 00:59:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Dec 2005 00:59:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 18006 invoked by uid 500); 22 Dec 2005 00:59:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 17870 invoked by uid 500); 22 Dec 2005 00:58:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 17791 invoked by uid 99); 22 Dec 2005 00:58:59 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:58:59 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of craigmcc@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.201 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.201] (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.201) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:58:57 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so426244wra for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:58:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eTLoSkRvSX2dLUipg/puONQEDlIcvgN6MldXUAOQOQa+SsZeZeC0gNDEHQQkIUrJgGGKZoM+7LItiM63J6BKcjcgHruGRyZuZSTQiXd0sewRT8ACCp9aO2hvS4dLGzUgRORCSbFRZe9R/XAGCXPjOAA6dv5zTBZv5kDIKgUq3N0= Received: by 10.65.216.18 with SMTP id t18mr17762qbq; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:58:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.15.17 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:58:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:58:36 -0800 From: Craig McClanahan Sender: craigmcc@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: AJAX Toolkit Framework Proposal In-Reply-To: <43A9B4D7.8060202@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24192_6117331.1135213116597" References: <43A81FCE.2050209@apache.org> <43A83D9E.2000902@apache.org> <43A9B4D7.8060202@apache.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ------=_Part_24192_6117331.1135213116597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 12/21/05, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Craig McClanahan wrote: > > > >>From a software engineering viewpoint, focusing on a single tool > > Have you any other tools in mind? Bring them on! Actually, I don't -- tooling-specific adaptations of generic technologies seem best fitted to the corresponding tool development communitiies, with participation from all relevant parties in the generic technology development discussions. Apparently, neither do you, or this proposal would have made this explicit, and you'd have had representatives of other tooling folks directly involved= , rather than being totally focused on Eclipse plugins and SWT implementations. Once again, let me state that the goal is to seed a non-exclusive AJAX > community at the ASF. The Zimbra part of the proposal could, I suppose, be held to aim at that goal. If you believe proposing an Eclipse-only tooling story (apparently t= o the exlusion of at least some folks in the Eclipse Foundation :-) forwards this goal, I would suggest taking this part of the proposal back for some serious editing. Craig ------=_Part_24192_6117331.1135213116597--