Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 27169 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2005 06:46:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 2005 06:46:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 44665 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2005 06:46:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44501 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2005 06:46:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44484 invoked by uid 99); 6 Dec 2005 06:46:09 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:46:09 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of kentaminator@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.194 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.162.194] (HELO zproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.162.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:46:08 -0800 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z6so1471941nzd for ; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:45:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=udFoW5c1TsZAkK4jIT9vij8njNbpUlpuj9ajeJMT9Ho080YuqwfAEu0sexrYELPbAeydio2G6wNtT44//yexWyU8WcwK6AaMBKYLTpQeI707sENQBzgi6YIOPbJLeyne2qxgdLliLXY0w1LXhkzAUtRbJjXsn1zntcu+/d76ggM= Received: by 10.65.105.12 with SMTP id h12mr147587qbm; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.200.18 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:45:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:45:47 -0800 From: Kenneth Tam To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <438DEBF2.1040203@apache.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > Specifically, I think the goal of providing a language/platform > > neutral service assembly layer that's backed by an extensible set of > > app developer models (with a shared conceptual framework) for specific > > languages/technologies, is something distinct here. Stuff like > > figuring out how to work with e.g. ServiceMix being built around JBI, > > a Java-centric standard, is definitely in the plan and seems like the > > kind of work that would be appropriate to do while incubating. > > Agreed. Though we can work on that after incubation too :) Yep, I think a lot of value in this kind of integration comes from it being an ongoing process rather than a point-in-time thing. The way the initial seed code has evolved, we're at a point where the overhead of opening up is definitely outweighed by the potential gains from community involvement in this kind of exploration. > > [ integration ideas elided ].. > Glad to see so many ideas -- we know there's prior art -- many of us are very cognizant of the proliferation of work in this very broad space, and the value in keeping a healthy tension between adding value / "offering people a choice" vs. reinventing the wheel just because we think we have a better XML configuration file format :P. > Incidentally I've also wanted a nice Apache licensed SDO > implementation too for some time (thats not bound to EMF :) Heh, I thought the same thing when I got involved.. k --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org