Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 47610 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2005 17:37:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Dec 2005 17:37:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 61654 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2005 17:37:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61468 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2005 17:37:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 61457 invoked by uid 99); 5 Dec 2005 17:37:47 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 09:37:47 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.98.36] (HELO brmea-mail-4.sun.com) (192.18.98.36) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 09:37:46 -0800 Received: from fe-amer-02.sun.com ([192.18.108.176]) by brmea-mail-4.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jB5HbMD7016672 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:37:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) id <0IR100001CAUAB00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for general@incubator.apache.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:37:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.145.133.145] by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPSA id <0IR100DIICY9MG80@mail-amer.sun.com>; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:37:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 09:37:20 -0800 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: [vote] JDO out of incubation and into the DB project ( was Re: [discussion] JDO out of incubation) In-reply-to: <91E3D947-E989-4FBC-BE92-61F780A3F615@apache.org> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: pmc@db.apache.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary=Apple-Mail-63-878218249; micalg=sha1 References: <91E3D947-E989-4FBC-BE92-61F780A3F615@apache.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-63-878218249 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-62-878217716 --Apple-Mail-62-878217716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed +1 (non-binding) We're excited to be considered for graduation into the DB TLP. Craig On Dec 4, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I repurposed the discussion thread for continuity to call for a > vote. There has been no concern or objection noted in the last two > weeks, so I'll assume that people are comfortable with this. > > So what say ye? > > [ ] +1 Graduate JDO from the Apache Incubator to be a part of the > DB TLP > [ ] -1 Do not graduate at this time because : > > > > > > I'd like to ask that this vote run 72 hours so that in the event of > a successful vote, we can flip the project over to DB in time for > ApacheCon. > > geir > > > > > On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:11 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> I'd like to propose that the JDO podling graduate from >> incubation. I'll call for a vote if this discussion is positive. >> >> They are about to do a release, and figure they'd like to do that >> in their new home at DB rather than in incubator. >> >> The active committer community is small, with a "legal diversity >> factor" of 4 or 5, if you count me. >> >> Committers >> ----------- >> Craig, Michelle, Martin Zaun - from Sun >> Matthew Adams, Eric Bendston - independents >> Michael Watzek, Michael Bouschen - Techspree >> >> (and if you count me, I have no legal relationship to any >> organization above...) >> >> They also have two very active contributors, who could easily >> become committers (and probably will at some point after >> graduation) who are independent as well. >> >> They have reasonable dev list traffic, 378 messages in Oct, 473 >> in sept, 290 in Aug... with decisions made in public, and with no >> rancor that I can see. >> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-jdo-dev/ >> >> They hold conference calls once a week (not ideal IMO) but so far >> that doesn't seem to disenfranchise anyone, and they publish the >> minutes to the dev list immediately after the calls. As far as I >> can tell, there have been no complaints. >> >> The status page : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/jdo.html >> >> Anyway, I've notified the DB PMC before I posted this, and CC-ed >> them on this mail. If there are no complaints, I'll call for a >> vote to both graduate JDO and be accepted by the DB PMC> >> >> geir >> >> -- >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 >> geirm@apache.org >> >> > > -- > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 > geirm@apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! --Apple-Mail-62-878217716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +1 (non-binding) We're excited = to be considered for graduation into the DB TLP.

Craig

On Dec 4, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

I repurposed the discussion thread for continuity to = call for a vote.=A0 There = has been no concern or objection noted in the last two weeks, so I'll = assume that people are comfortable with this.

So what = say ye?

[ ] +1 Graduate JDO from the Apache Incubator to be = a part of the DB TLP
[ ] -1 Do not graduate at = this time because :




I'd like to ask that this vote = run 72 hours so that in the event of a successful vote, we can flip the = project over to DB in time for ApacheCon.





On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:11 AM, = Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

I'd like = to propose that the JDO podling graduate from incubation.=A0 I'll call for a vote if this = discussion is positive.

They are about to do a release, = and figure they'd like to do that in their new home at DB rather than in = incubator.

The active committer community is small, with a = "legal diversity factor" of 4 or 5, if you count me.

-----------
Craig, Michelle, Martin Zaun - from Sun
Matthew Adams, Eric Bendston - = independents
Michael Watzek, Michael Bouschen = - Techspree

(and if you count me, I have no legal relationship = to any organization above...)

They also have two very active = contributors, who could easily become committers (and probably will at = some point after graduation)=A0 = who are independent as well.

They have reasonable dev list = traffic,=A0 378 messages in = Oct, 473 in sept, 290 in Aug... with decisions made in public, and with = no rancor that I can see.


They = hold conference calls once a week (not ideal IMO) but so far that = doesn't seem to disenfranchise anyone, and they publish the minutes to = the dev list immediately after the calls.=A0 As far as I can tell, there = have been no complaints.


Anyway, I've notified the DB PMC = before I posted this, and CC-ed them on this mail.=A0 If there are no complaints, = I'll call for a vote to both graduate JDO and be accepted by the DB = PMC>

geir

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Geir = Magnusson Jr=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = +1-203-665-6437



For = additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.a= pache.org

=

Craig Russell

Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo=

408 = 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com

P.S. A = good JDO? O, Gasp!


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