Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 8229 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2005 21:43:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Dec 2005 21:43:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 42918 invoked by uid 500); 23 Dec 2005 21:43:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 42802 invoked by uid 500); 23 Dec 2005 21:43:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 42721 invoked by uid 99); 23 Dec 2005 21:43:23 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:43:23 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [68.230.241.37] (HELO fed1rmmtao02.cox.net) (68.230.241.37) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:43:22 -0800 Received: from [192.168.0.102] (really [70.187.185.205]) by fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051223214130.UNLB17006.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@[192.168.0.102]> for ; Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:41:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: <96B33608-506E-46A1-A31B-7B2E4F342B80@sauria.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Roy T. Fielding" Subject: Re: Is the incubator out of control? Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:43:00 -0800 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:14 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > On Dec 22, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> On Dec 22, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Erik Abele wrote: >>> >>> So nobody has the right but you do? Or how can your smack-down of >>> the Tuscany proposal be interpreted? >> >> Because Tuscany was proposed to the incubator PMC (not another PMC) >> and I do have a vote here. > > It's interesting to note that if Dims would have, as he suggested > in one of his Email messages, to simply have the WS PMC vote > on the proposal as is, and it would have passed it, Roy's > concerns would have been totally moot. So no matter how good > or vague the proposal, if voted on by a PMC, it's allowed. Yes, and I trust the other PMCs to be responsible for their own actions. I think people forget that the Incubator is just a place where people incubate their own projects. The PMC doesn't incubate them. The PMC is just the collective dude with a finger on the good egg/bad egg reject button. ....Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org