Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 81061 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2005 07:34:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2005 07:34:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 42127 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2005 07:34:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 41731 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2005 07:34:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 41720 invoked by uid 99); 3 Dec 2005 07:34:40 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:34:40 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [128.195.24.168] (HELO scotch.ics.uci.edu) (128.195.24.168) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:36:09 -0800 Received: from scotch.ics.uci.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scotch.ics.uci.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jB37YITi021801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 23:34:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jerenk@localhost) by scotch.ics.uci.edu (8.13.4+Sun/8.12.11/Submit) id jB37YI8L021800 for general@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 23:34:18 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: scotch.ics.uci.edu: jerenk set sender to justin@erenkrantz.com using -f Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 23:34:17 -0800 From: Justin Erenkrantz To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project Message-ID: <20051203073417.GU28636@scotch.ics.uci.edu> References: <438DEBF2.1040203@apache.org> <3842911A-0EA4-44CC-B82F-A1825D47AFDB@gbiv.com> <32384427-9E5D-4AB4-AE5D-8B980DFACA7E@apache.org> <3181516B-19FF-4D05-9439-4E3E76C560D5@apache.org> <971B7745-7C1E-411D-9A23-EB38EE8496BF@gbiv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <971B7745-7C1E-411D-9A23-EB38EE8496BF@gbiv.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.0-r232569 (2005-08-13) on scotch.ics.uci.edu X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=no version=3.2.0-r232569 X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 11:12:15PM -0800, Roy Fielding wrote: > No, the proposal is all about SOA. What you are saying is that the > *actual plan* is about SCA. What I am saying is that the proposal > needs to match the actual plan, preferably a plan that is actionable, > rather than a statement of how happy the SOA community may someday be. Absolutely agreed. As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the proposal other than vague hand-waving. -- justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org