From general-return-6476-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Dec 16 22:35:31 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 65148 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2005 22:35:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2005 22:35:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 97865 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2005 22:35:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 97491 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2005 22:35:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 97480 invoked by uid 99); 16 Dec 2005 22:35:28 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:35:28 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [199.237.51.194] (HELO green.rootmode.com) (199.237.51.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:35:27 -0800 X-ClientAddr: 68.171.62.46 Received: from [192.168.15.108] (68-171-62-46.vnnyca.adelphia.net [68.171.62.46]) by green.rootmode.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBGMYuE3006249 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:34:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: <43A331FC.4000305@rowe-clan.net> References: <43A331FC.4000305@rowe-clan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dain Sundstrom Subject: Re: @domain for Incubator mailing lists Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:35:06 -0800 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-RootMode-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RootMode-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dain@iq80.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N My personal preference is to have incubated sub-projects use mailing lists and websites within the TLP containing a notice header that the project is under incubation (and may die). My understanding is that you feel having the email address containing the word "incubator" will warn users, and I believe that we can achieve the same (or better) with a mail footer that contains the notice. Note: we already have footers automatically added to every email. Regardless, my desire for consistency vastly out weighs my arguments above, so if the this policy change is approved by the incubator community, I would like to see all mailing lists (with the exception of the few that are about to graduate) be changed to @incubator. -dain On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:30 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> since it's so easy to move them, should we move the latest >> projects coming into incubator to @incubator? > > If the list is relatively new, then yes. > > It would seem silly to do this to a project that's been around 6 mos+ > and is nearing graduation (or the -other- alternative disposition). > >> On Dec 16, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >>> The current approach is to put the mailing lists under the >>> domain of the TLP >>> into which it was expected that they would go, and THE REASON for >>> this had >>> to do with the difficulty of moving the mailing lists and the >>> eyebrowse >>> archives. HOWEVER, Roy has since written a script to move >>> mailing lists, >>> and we no longer use eyebrowse. And unlike the prior setup, it >>> is fairly >>> straightforward to redirect an old archive location to a new one. >>> >>> THEREFORE, new mailing lists should be created under the >>> @incubator.apache.org domain, just as all of the other project >>> resources, >>> e.g., the web site and SVN subtree. > > +1 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org