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From "Noel J. Bergman" <>
Subject RE: Is the incubator out of control?
Date Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:12:12 GMT
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

> I'm all in favor of enforcing a strict embargo until the Incubator PMC
? approves a proposal, an initial code drop lands, and the mailing lists are
> created.  Until those happen, any active publicity claiming it to be a
> of the ASF is a flat-out lie.  (In the future, the PRC is almost certainly
> going to reject any releases before this happens.)

Then we have a different policy to put into place: NO PR WITHOUT THE
APPROVAL OF THE PRC.  And that should be applied to ALL ASF PROJECTS, not
just those in the Incubator.  That puts more work on the PRC, which will
need to grow to scale, but I'd go for such an ASF-wide policy.  We would
have to document that broadly, and make it clear to donors.  That probably
won't help with the "We're planning to donate" type announcements, but ...

> after those steps occur (which should be relatively quickly in the
> order of a few weeks), removing the Apache brand from podlings would
> be incredibly harmful.


> The only reason that these projects can have the 'Apache' brand is because
> a member of the Foundation is willing to act as mentor *and* the Incubator
> PMC approves each interim release.  If the mentor isn't keeping the
> in line with respect to our values, then the Incubator or the
> PMC needs to step in and provide guidance or terminate it.

Hopefully, a 3 active mentor policy will help with this issue.

	--- Noel

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