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From Martin Sebor <se...@roguewave.com>
Subject Re: Corporations and the incubator
Date Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:00:20 GMT
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
[...]
> I suggest we add a "For corporations" section to the "Incubator  
> Guidelines Documentation" which would contain things, like:

+1 so far. I agree that better, more detailed guidelines would help
organizations or communities not familiar with the process prevent
confusion and avoid misunderstanding.

> 
> Don't do a press release.  An incubating project is not officially  part 
> of the ASF, and a press release will imply that the project is  part of 
> the ASF.  This one really makes ASF members angry, so don't  go here.

-1

Press releases are a means for companies to announce noteworthy
events to the public. Certainly, donating a substantial code base
and committing to maintaining and typically also supporting that
code base free of charge while at the same time taking on the task
of building a diverse community around the donated project and
shepherding it through the incubation process is a noteworthy
event and can be a significant financial undertaking on the part
of the donating organization that the public has the right to know
about.

If there is a perceived problem with these types of announcements
wouldn't a better approach be for the Apache PRC to anticipate and
proactively try to prevent them, perhaps by offering to help with
the press release? A set of guidelines describing what is and isn't
appropriate for such a press release would be helpful as well.

> 
> Don't "just" print some t-shirts with the ASF logo or the incubating  
> project's logo.  See "Don't do a press release" for reasons.

-1

I see nothing wrong with printing T-shirts or other promotional
items as long as their design is approved by the ASF. Companies
need to be able to make use of their resources to promote the
donated projects in an honest effort to build a community around
them. It doesn't just help the project, it's also free advertising
for the ASF. Since the ASF gets to approve or reject a request
for the use of its trademarks I don't see any risk here.

> 
> Do move copyright notices from all source files to the NOTICE file.

+1

I'm not sure exactly what this means but I am certainly in favor
of documenting the process of copyright transfer even better than
it is now.

> 
> Do donate to the ASF :)

And they do -- their software :)

Martin

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