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From Leo Simons <m...@leosimons.com>
Subject Re: [RT] Super Simple Site Generation Tool
Date Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:05:45 GMT
/me hits himself on the head for not mentioning this earlier...but..
...could we please move this thread to site-dev at apache dot org? The crossposts
are no doubt annoying some people :-)

On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 11:37:15AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> --On December 27, 2005 6:02:18 AM -0800 Leo Simons <mail@leosimons.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> > * anakia
> >   * the source xdoc format is not simple or clean enough
> >   * the validation step is not complete enough
> >   * the transformation is not predictable enough
> >   * managing navigational elements is not simple or clean enough
> 
> FWIW, I think these are all solvable with anakia or just not that important.

Noted. What is and what is not important enough is something that takes
potentially a lot of discussing...but I'm guessing having validated X(HT)ML is
worth something...

> For the apache.org sites that still use it (www, httpd, apr), it gets about 
> as close to your stated workflow as anything else we use today.

Yup. Admireable, huh? :-)

Of all our website tools, I still like anakia best. I'm not the only one. Heh.
Geir set up Harmony with an anakia-based thing the other day :-)

> If anything that you create has the same workflow as anakia, fine by me.

That's the baseline. Either its more productive or it gets shot.

> Altering the workflow to require Forrest or Maven-like characteristics is a 
> non-starter for me - this explains why I won't do a darn thing with the 
> Incubator site even though the site is dog-poo (both in site design and 
> content). 

aye.

> I see too many people waste too much time fighting Forrest on 
> the Incubator to justify any investment of time on my part.

I've seen so many people fight various doctools I'm putting some effort into
fixing it.

- LSD

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