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From Davanum Srinivas <dava...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Is the incubator out of control?
Date Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:26:38 GMT
Hmmm...But the deal is if the PMC wants a change to its charter it
needs to VOTE on it and formally adopt it.  right? AND if the PMC does
not have one then it needs to adhere to the board resolution. right?

You know where i am going with this, if you read between the lines...

-- dims

On 12/23/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org> wrote:
> Every TLP has an explicit charter when created by the board in the
> resolution that creates them.  How they interpret that and change
> with the shifting sands of technology style is up to them....
>
> geir
>
> On Dec 23, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > Sounds good to me (hopefully all our TLP's will have charters soon!!).
> >
> > -- dims
> >
> > On 12/23/05, Sam Ruby <rubys@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >>> Sam,
> >>>
> >>> it's not just a question of content and significance. It's also a
> >>> question of fitting with existing projects and check to make sure
> >>> that
> >>> the project still adheres to the the charter of the PMC. These are
> >>> better checked by outsiders ("Incubator PMC"), since the insiders
> >>> ("WS
> >>> PMC") may be biased.
> >>
> >> I don't believe that it is the incubator's job to watch to make sure
> >> that existing projects stay to their charters - that's the job of
> >> the board.
> >>
> >>> Another thing i can think of is, for example, when HTTPComponents
> >>> (by
> >>> internal people) was being set up there was resistance from tomcat
> >>> folks. But the scope got resolved by active participation by folks
> >>> from tomcat and jakarta pmcs. IMHO, this will not happen if a PMC
> >>> already voted to accept something even before Incubator PMC knows
> >>> about it (not to mention the other PMC's who may significant input).
> >>
> >> Again, I don't believe that it is the incubator's job to enforce
> >> scope.
> >>   Furthermore, acceptance by the incubator is the start of a process,
> >> not the end of it.  There should be adequate opportunity for
> >> people to
> >> provide input during the course of incubation.
> >>
> >> - Sam Ruby
> >>
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> >
> >
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