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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Growth
Date Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:43:09 GMT

On Dec 22, 2005, at 2:51 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:

> Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>> On 12/21/2005 7:22 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Right now any PMC can automatically ok projects into incubator. How
>>> about we change that rule? So that the only pmc that can  approve a
>>> proposal is the incubator PMC.
>
> ++1
>

I also agree, after some thought.

>> Without putting too much thought into my response I think that the  
>> Incubator PMC wields enough control given that they have the final  
>> say on Incubation graduation.
>
> Having a no vote in what enters the incubator, but only on what  
> leaves:
> 1) sets up the folks doing the work for burnout due to the possibly  
> large numbers of projects in at any one time. Controlling  
> throughput is important.

My so-called "Denial of Service Attack" on the Incubator :)

> 2) sets up a larger number of projects for failure. If there is  
> (hypothetically) some compelling reason that a project isn't going  
> to be graduated, then isn't it better to be able to say that at the  
> start, rather than waiting for a certain number of hoops to be  
> jumped through?
>

Yes, but we can't think of incubation failure as "failure" - that's  
actually a successful outcome for the incubator, as it's doing its  
job in that case.  Not everyone will want to work our way, not every  
project will catch a diverse community interest, etc.  I'd prefer we  
call it something else - like  "retired from incubation" or  
something.   A job a long time ago taught me very well that you  
should never be afraid to fail if you go at things with good  
intentions and good effort.

geir


> Yes, absolutely, I believe the incubator should have a vote up  
> front to approve what enters the incubator.
>
> -- 
> Rich Bowen
> rbowen@rcbowen.com
>
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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
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