Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 16599 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2005 04:55:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Nov 2005 04:55:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29670 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2005 04:55:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29529 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2005 04:55:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 29506 invoked by uid 99); 22 Nov 2005 04:55:33 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:55:33 -0800 Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [65.77.211.84] (HELO www2.kc.aoindustries.com) (65.77.211.84) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:57:05 -0800 Received: from fo2.kc.aoindustries.com (www2.kc.aoindustries.com [65.77.211.84]) by www2.kc.aoindustries.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jAM4tBqA005684 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:55:11 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by fo2.kc.aoindustries.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jAM4tBHE005609 for general@incubator.apache.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:55:11 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fo2.kc.aoindustries.com: indexgeo set sender to crossley@apache.org using -f Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:54:52 +1100 From: David Crossley To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 16 23:55:44 2005 Message-ID: <20051122045452.GA25884@igg.indexgeo.com.au> References: <200511170455.jAH4tipB028666@Boron.MeepZor.Com> <437CB560.9070409@roguewave.com> <437F7CE4.9040306@roguewave.com> <20051121014441.GA23993@igg.indexgeo.com.au> <4381FBED.6030306@roguewave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4381FBED.6030306@roguewave.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Martin Sebor wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > [...] > >The note that you have patched below is something > >that is listed under the "Resolved Issues" section. > >In my opinion that stuff should have been long ago > >moved to another file because it is old resolved issues. > >Those notes are not completely relevant now. > > David, thanks for the feedback! > > I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean. (Or maybe I just > misunderstand the purpose of the Resolved Issues section.) Are you > saying that the guidelines listed in the section may not be relevant > anymore, perhaps because they have been superseded by new ones? If > so, I would certainly agree that they should be removed. Saying that things have probably changed since those older resolutions and new resolutions were not made, or rather probably not documented. > In addition, > I would argue that a better place for keeping track of Incubator > issues (both resolved and pending) is in Jira. The status file could > then simply include a couple of links to Jira queries, one for all > resolved issues and another for all pending issues: > > Pending issues: http://tinyurl.com/d3qwr > Resolved issues: http://tinyurl.com/7d2c3 > > >Lets backup a bit. > > > >You have raised two completely separate issues in the > >one email ... > > > >1) The STATUS file for the Incubator project as a whole > >is way out-of-date and is confusing. > > > >2) The requirements for each incubating project to > >declare their status, are misleading and confusing. > > > >These should be treated as two separate email topics. > > Perhaps. I presented (2) as evidence of (1). > > In any case how do you suggest I change the patch? Remove the whole > Resolved Issues section? It is not up to me. As a group, we need definite decisions on those two separate items, and then clearly document them. -David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org