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From: Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org>
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To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org,
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Subject: Incubation progress of JDO podling
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:17:03 +0800
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Hi,

As being an observer in the JDO incubating project, I want to let other 
members of the Incubator to know that;

1. The collaboration aspect of the technical sides has been handled perfectly. 
Jira issues are posted, mailing list are used to discuss various approaches, 
consensus styled decisions and a high rate of progress.

2. Community-wise things are slightly less rosy. The people at Sun and 
Tech@Spree are doing a great job on pushing the technical side of this 
project, but probably uncertain on how to engage more people effectively. I 
think the immense speed of the project is probably a deterent, and not really 
a fault of the project or people in it per se. Also, I think the effective 
split with the sister project jpox.org, is making the participation looking 
smaller than it really is.


Craig, Michelle, Michael^2 and everyone else; I think you have adjusted well 
to the Apache Way (after a shaky start :o)  ) and keep up the good work. 
Please note that from a Incubator graduation point of view, finishing the 
"product" is secondary. Getting more helping hands from a diversity of people 
is priority.

Other important items missing;

 * The Incubator project page does not contain the JDO project. (Is that the 
responsibility of the incubating project or the Incubator?) 

 * There is no STATUS file produced. It should go into 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-publish/projects/


I hope this will further the incubating process of this exciting project :o)


Cheers
Niclas Hedhman


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