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From: "Noel J. Bergman" <noel@devtech.com>
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Subject: RE: releasing from incubator? -- was: Re: a beehive release and the
 JSR 181 TCK issue
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:00:11 -0400
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Richard Feit wrote:

> > > we need all the guidance we can get in achieving that.
> >
> > How has it been going?  Have you had input from the project Mentor(s)?
>
> Definitely.  Craig (McClanahan) has chimed in publicly and privately,
> with both solicited and unsolicited advice.  He's been great about
> letting us know what smells bad (e.g., the idea of moving all bug
> traffic off of beehive-dev).

I'm glad to hear it.  :-)

> This is just a case where we need all the input we can get.

We'll see if we can get some additional mentoring for you.  I believe that
we'll have another volunteer to also spend time helping beehive along.  :-)

> We've discussed the fact that there's not enough activity in the list,
> and that too much of our dev traffic is in JIRA.

> It feels like we're in a cycle that started with ambiguous use
> of beehive-dev, is now in a phase where there's a lot of
> traffic about process/infrastructure/planning, and is moving
> into the realm of design/architecture/integration.

One cannot address what one doesn't perceive, so these sound like good
steps.  :-)

> > Incubation isn't a set of hurdles to clear; it is a process
> > to (attempt to) ensure that projects have clean IP and a
> > healthy community that follows ASF principles.
>
> It's good for us to remember that.  :)

:-)

	--- Noel


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