Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 75776 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2005 03:55:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 2005 03:55:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 44386 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2005 03:55:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44037 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2005 03:55:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44024 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2005 03:55:55 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from chi.mobile-health-diary.com (HELO chi.mobile-health-diary.com) (128.241.244.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:55:55 -0700 Received: (qmail 32316 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2005 03:55:24 -0000 Received: from ool-43560634.dyn.optonline.net (HELO ?10.0.1.43?) (geir@67.86.6.52) by b014.internal.mobile-health-diary.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2005 03:55:24 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <01680ad3741ab99da33b0cc2bf730019@gbiv.com> References: <42485243.4050109@Golux.Com> <4250059D.5000603@Golux.Com> <42602405.8020201@Golux.Com> <20050415165333.D63791@paz.hyperreal.org> <4263D109.80509@Golux.Com> <4A1017F8-B324-11D9-961C-000A95D41A40@apache.org> <20050422084042.T12410@paz.hyperreal.org> <4dc3344c44819310c25b50ebd54d8786@gbiv.com> <42696B1A.60408@debrunners.com> <01680ad3741ab99da33b0cc2bf730019@gbiv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8413F655-B3AB-11D9-961C-000A95D41A40@apache.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Geir Magnusson Jr. Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 23:55:22 -0400 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Apr 22, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > I have no doubt that Derby can and will reach that level soon > while staying inside the incubator. Meanwhile, continued moves > to give Derby special treatment are NOT APPROPRIATE. I don't think that there is a move to give "special treatment", at least that's not what I'm after. I think that there is a reasonable community around Derby (and recognized the problem in the new committer creation rate from the beginning of this...) and I wasn't aware that there was a hard and fast rule of 3 "legally independent" committers. Instead, I thought it was a recommendation and good practice. My mistake, certainly. I'm happy to wait for a third independent committer, who will undoubtedly remove the concerns we have about the independence of the other 10 existing committers :) Maybe we should look for an additional metric for community health and diversity for next time. It could be in addition to the "rule of 3", but I think this example shows where we can improve things to help ensure healthy communities. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 geirm@apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org