Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 21345 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2005 15:25:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 2005 15:25:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 60765 invoked by uid 500); 18 Apr 2005 15:24:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60588 invoked by uid 500); 18 Apr 2005 15:24:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60554 invoked by uid 99); 18 Apr 2005 15:24:49 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from i.meepzor.com (HELO Boron.MeepZor.Com) (204.146.167.214) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:24:48 -0700 Received: from [192.168.23.5] (dsl093-240-231.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.240.231]) by Boron.MeepZor.Com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3IFODaC027023; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:24:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4263D109.80509@Golux.Com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:23:53 -0400 From: Rodent of Unusual Size Reply-To: coar@apache.org Organization: The Apache Software Foundation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator References: <42485243.4050109@Golux.Com> <4250059D.5000603@Golux.Com> <42602405.8020201@Golux.Com> <20050415165333.D63791@paz.hyperreal.org> In-Reply-To: <20050415165333.D63791@paz.hyperreal.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Brian Behlendorf wrote: > > Wouldn't "how can we increase the number of new developers on Derby while > still in incubation" a better question to ask? I think only if the answer to 'does Derby need more committers before it can graduate' is 'yes.' Participation is growing nicely, but the Derby PPMC is being careful not to hand out commit access like candy. I guess the basic question would be, 'Does keeping Derby in the incubator add any value anywhere?' At this point I feel moderately strongly that it doesn't, but that's just me -- and I can be convinced otherwise. :-) - -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQmPRB5rNPMCpn3XdAQFBLgQAjLWVlCfEIMAI1ePoEEsp77n0MlsTBTHl V3FmZ8hbPn3j9O5zrSAHM7KsQiROBnHaK7MdKoRDO9Bx4R/GpHycIZJ/mjjbIquj ZpYljLnmlS0fgoJA+2o2LdcOByF464JWImfDu7cZ2PcuqJWR/B9mOCIMUmTM0Zcl njvnm5hut1Y= =Xlzh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org