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From Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Whether to graduate Derby from the incubator
Date Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:42:36 GMT
Noel,

Nice note.  Bravo.

Until the summer :)

geir

On Apr 23, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> It is clear that there is no consensus for Derby to graduate at this 
> time
> due to the makeup of the Committer base.  But while the volume of 
> debate
> that has been part of the vote suggests that the call to vote was a bit
> premature, it is quite clear that there is great respect and 
> anticipation
> for the Derby project.
>
> Personally, I am quite pleased and impressed with Derby's stewards.  
> The
> community may not have the makeup, yet, to graduate, but this 
> discussion has
> engendered a very good and active discussion amongst the Derby PPMC, 
> and I
> am quite happy with the attitudes that I've seen there.  I won't name 
> names
> since the discussions have been on their PPMC list, but every single
> participant has impressed me with his or her attitude and approach.  
> The
> result of those discussions will be an improved and stronger Derby
> community, and one that we will be happy to have as a graduated 
> project.
>
> If Derby follows up with their current direction, I see no reason not 
> to
> expect a similar vote to pass come Summer-time.
>
> So let's give the Derby community time to execute its plans, and if 
> people
> want to discuss community standards, please refocus the discussion on 
> the
> generic, not Derby.
>
> And please, let's try to watch our e-mail tone.  I understand that 
> people
> feel passionately about things, but while we may wrestle with issues, 
> we
> should assume that everyone has the best interests of both the ASF and 
> each
> Incubator project in mind, and that no one is trying to treat anyone 
> or any
> project unfairly (or specially).
>
> 	--- Noel
>
>
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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
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