Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 98609 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2005 17:38:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Mar 2005 17:38:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 52786 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2005 17:38:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52613 invoked by uid 500); 15 Mar 2005 17:38:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52598 invoked by uid 99); 15 Mar 2005 17:38:10 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from i.meepzor.com (HELO Boron.MeepZor.Com) (204.146.167.214) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:38:08 -0800 Received: from [192.168.23.5] (dsl093-240-231.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.240.231]) by Boron.MeepZor.Com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j2FHc1K7022200; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:38:02 -0500 Message-ID: <42371D4F.9020102@Golux.Com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:37:19 -0500 From: Rodent of Unusual Size Reply-To: coar@apache.org Organization: The Apache Software Foundation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: What is a healthy community? WAS: log4net 1.2.9 beta release References: <6.0.3.0.0.20050312163525.038648e8@mail.qos.ch> <6.0.3.0.0.20050314120929.03a47ed0@mail.qos.ch> In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050314120929.03a47ed0@mail.qos.ch> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ceki G�lc� wrote: > > What is so special about the number 3? What's wrong with 5 committers? With > 4? With 2? With 1? Nothing is wrong with 5, or 47. Those are good things. However, a project with 1 or 2 committers doesn't have a development community. Three favourable votes being required for passage of a significant action or event is one of the basic aspects of how Apache projects do things. There's nothing that says there can't be *more* than three positive votes, but something that doesn't garner at *least* three is considered non-viable. > I won't make any empty promises here. I don't think the LS PMC could take > over log4x code if the current contributors stopped working on it. How many contributors are there total? > Does "sustainable" necessarily mean 3 or more committers? Is a project with > a single committer yet consistent committer less viable than a project with > 30 disillusioned and inactive committters? IMHO, 'sustainable' means possessing a viable and active development community. Neither of the examples you give qualifies to my mind. - -- #ken P-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQjcdTprNPMCpn3XdAQG2ygQAyBkSyE9Be4/VYWtIkYH+bU3KPI9uffww Ftr+soQvJNfsYF5KLdPHl4p/1smIRy817AIa+/9ym/eNbtOqjaMToHyw0HNvAE6N 2LlHH9I6bcaDvhreE0+mI3YnoTvoyaNixl0aS80Wk1epl8uQTYulNvDA8HdNnt59 CUsZDihWUw8= =sn8e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org