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From Ted Leung <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby from the incubator
Date Wed, 30 Mar 2005 03:17:54 GMT

On Mar 29, 2005, at 6:58 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> Ted Leung wrote:
>> -1
>> I am surprised that people think the committer diversity
>> issues are not an issue for graduation.
> Actually, I agree with you, and others have expressed the same concern,
> although without casting a vote.  Adding new Committers is probably 
> the #1
> issue facing the Derby project, which has otherwise performed 
> excellently to
> date.  As even Jeremy pointed out, were IBM to withdraw (however 
> unlikely)
> from Derby, it would be a serious blow.

I'm not trying to be difficult, but a vote was called even after 
concerns were expressed,
and there were several +1 votes.

> I have great respect for everyone involved in the Derby project, but I 
> don't
> believe that special consideration should be given.  That is a 
> slipperly
> slope, which would cause other projects to either ask for the same 
> special
> consideration or cry foul about favoritism.

We have already been accused of favoring one company or another.  Once 
we start giving
special consideration the meritocracy disappears.


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