From general-return-4384-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Oct 20 14:05:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 74729 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2004 14:05:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Oct 2004 14:05:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 54163 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2004 14:04:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 53994 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2004 14:04:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 53908 invoked by uid 99); 20 Oct 2004 14:04:00 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of matthieu.riou@gmail.com designates 64.233.170.196 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.170.196] (HELO mproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.170.196) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:03:58 -0700 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 74so457360rnk for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:03:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Zq/2bd05HHILaKmo0g5xnMDSLxFvoMy3JsElHqEaytaXdA3JmsCDJM03d/DzYnoJPxFu0rqpWS1rZZvHlTTgVIlEUTlAQttdomRFNSo+pSgOFSWb+/3/GvhyQW/f1rpRyUDHsJo5XuZaZTLPXSbi98/MSkOKaTo4GSuVjaipwMc Received: by 10.38.13.67 with SMTP id 67mr457829rnm; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.76.8 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:03:54 +0200 From: Matthieu Riou Reply-To: matthieu.riou@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I'm going to have a closer look at Agila to see how Twister can fit here. Is there anything I should look at beside the Subversion repository? Twister's engine core is somewhat tied to WS-BPEL. Our approach was a bit different, we didn't try to build a meta-model or anything too generic. Our plan was just to extend the engine if other workflow patterns were needed and not included in BPEL and stick with the specs for the rest. Anyway I'll just check Agila and see how Twister and WS-BPEL could be integrated into it. We could work out a way to stick with your original plan which, I agree, may be better for a generic workflow implementation. If you have any question about Twister, just let me know. Matthieu. On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:20:55 -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > This is great. We're really interested in getting BPEL into Agila. > I'll take a look. > > We originally decided to not go w/ BPEL as the core language, as we > wanted to support all kinds of activities in a workflow, being able to > make a workflow that mixes them. So it was planned that we'd get BPEL > support, and allow you to incorporate BPEL into a regular Agila > workflow using a namespace or something. Of course, we can decide if > we want to change that plan here, but I think there are some compelling > arguments for that kind of approach... > > geir > > > > On Oct 20, 2004, at 5:52 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine. More > > can be found about Twister here: > > > > http://www.smartcomps.org/twister > > > > I'm sending this e-mail to suggest a donation of Twister to the Apache > > Group and a merge with the incubated Apache Agila project. I believe > > that Twister and the Gluecode engine could be assembled to a better > > solution, using the strengths of both implementations. This would also > > be beneficial for the BPM Open Source community and would bring more > > users and contributors to Agila. > > > > Regards, > > > > Matthieu Riou > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > > > > -- > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 > geir@gluecode.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org