On Sep 15, 2004, at 3:59 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:

> On Sep 15, 2004, at 2:55 PM, Jennifer B Machovec wrote:
>> I think the short-term (and maybe even long-term) resolution to the
>> copyright notice issue may be having the ASF copyright notice in each 
>> main
>> file clearly apply to the whole project.  This could read, for 
>> example:
>> "Apache Derby is (c) Copyright The Apache Software Foundation 2004. 
>> All
>> rights reserved. "  Then there's no implication of copyright 
>> ownership of
>> individual components.  The third-party copyright attributions can be
>> included in the NOTICE file.
>
> We need to limit NOTICE to acknowledging major contributions and
> fulfilling the advertising clause of third-party code.  It would
> be a disaster if everyone with a copyright wanted to be in there.

+1000

>> As Roy notes, if any contributor has
>> included copyright attributions in a main file, and you don't want to
>> retain those notices in that location for policy reasons, then ASF 
>> needs
>> to ask the contributor/copyright owner to either remove them or 
>> authorize
>> ASF to do so on their behalf.
>
> Larry Rosen (I mentioned the wrong Larry in the previous note)
> suggested that we place something like
>
>      Collective work Copyright 2004 The Apache Software Foundation.
>      [AL 2.0 Template]
>
>      Derivative work Copyright 2004 Some Other Contributor.
>      Licensed to the ASF under a contributor agreement.
>
>      Copyright 2004 Contributor Company, Inc.
>      Licensed to the ASF under a contributor agreement.

So Corporate entities get special handling (i.e., all I have to do is 
form an LLC and I can get my self listed in the notice file)?

> The alternative being that we start asking for copyright assignments.

+1 (I actually thought that is what Apache was doing)

-dain


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