Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 67337 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2004 16:12:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 2004 16:12:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4684 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2004 16:12:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4580 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2004 16:12:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 4556 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jul 2004 16:12:26 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [209.137.167.162] (HELO filter.fridayfives.net) (209.137.167.162) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Jul 2004 09:12:26 -0700 Received: by filter.fridayfives.net (Postfix, from userid 5054) id E9A586FC83; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freki (freki [127.0.0.1]) by freki (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B5F56FC8A for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.30] (kite.forthill.int [192.168.1.30]) by filter.fridayfives.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1277E6FC83 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <40ED5121.4010806@apache.org> References: <40ED411E.20300@apache.org> <40ED5121.4010806@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <979665F0-D0F9-11D8-ACE8-000A95782782@apache.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian McCallister Subject: Re: Personal attacks and respect Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:12:21 -0400 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Spam-Bayes-Score: 0.0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on freki X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N As an innocent bystander of the flamewar that spawned this email: Nicola commented on some technical changes, it started deteriorating into shed painting, Nicola posted an email on de-escalating conflict in technical discussions, then Stephen attacked Nicola directly for some as-yet-unspecified ("you know why, Nicola") historical reason that Nicola is not allowed to suggest ways to de-escalate conflict. From there things went ballistic (the technical discussion wrapped up quickly and happily) in personal attacks and slanders and the discussion was suggested to move here. http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=directory- dev@incubator.apache.org&by=thread&from=815543 http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=directory- dev@incubator.apache.org&by=thread&from=817324 http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=directory- dev@incubator.apache.org&by=thread&from=816749 I suggest avoiding argumentum ad hominem in technical discussions. It benefits no one, is logically invalid, and plays havoc on communities =) -Brian On Jul 8, 2004, at 9:50 AM, Stephen McConnell wrote: > > Nicola: > > If you have a problem with my annoyance at your presumption to preach - > then present it here away from any particular project. > > Stephen. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org