Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 90965 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2004 21:39:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Jul 2004 21:39:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 188 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2004 21:39:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 99849 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2004 21:39:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 99836 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jul 2004 21:39:22 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [209.237.226.90] (HELO hyperreal.org) (209.237.226.90) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with SMTP; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:39:18 -0700 Received: (qmail 57508 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2004 21:39:19 -0000 Received: from localhost.hyperreal.org (HELO dsl027-182-008.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Jul 2004 21:39:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 17471 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Jul 2004 21:39:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Jul 2004 21:39:14 -0000 Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:39:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf X-X-Sender: brian@fez.hyperreal.org To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: proposal: modify incubation application process to require a reference to the code itself In-Reply-To: <40F2FDE5.6090408@apache.org> Message-ID: <20040712143613.F16962@fez.hyperreal.org> References: <20040708182619.D5762@fez.hyperreal.org> <40F262F5.90009@Golux.Com> <20040712075435.I15887@fez.hyperreal.org> <40F2FDE5.6090408@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Brian Behlendorf wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >> >>> why? if the idea excites people but the code sucks, are we going to >>> turn it down? >> >> In that case, we might decide to accept a new project into the incubator >> for the same purpose, but decide not to accept the sucky code. > > java.apache.org history shows a long history of failures in incubating > projects without code. jakarta doesn't, exactly because we established that > rule. > > It would be a *major* step back if we lifted that requirement. Keep in mind that availablility of the code is a requirement during incubation, of course. The question is what's an appropriate bar to set *before* a project is accepted into the incubator. Let's also admit there are open source projects out there, perhaps even within the ASF, whose code quality makes it difficult to build communities around. Brian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org