From general-return-3677-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Jun 15 13:34:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 70450 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2004 13:34:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Jun 2004 13:34:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 31389 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jun 2004 13:33:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 30799 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jun 2004 13:33:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 30094 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jun 2004 13:33:27 -0000 Received: from [208.54.142.1] (HELO mailrelay.t-mobile.com) (208.54.142.1) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 06:33:27 -0700 Received: from [10.241.0.89] (unknown [10.241.0.89]) by mailrelay.t-mobile.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A9F189CB for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 06:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <37918420-BEC5-11D8-B548-000A95A01192@4quarters.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Geir Magnusson Jr Subject: Re: [Summary ]Re: [TEST+VOTE] Lenya 1.2 Release Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:12:05 -0400 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Jun 15, 2004, at 2:46 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Mind you, building an end-user community is not an incubation > priority. We > care about IP and development community, and the latter ought to be > able to > participate directly from source control. Specifically, a comment > like "it > is important to get out official (incubation) release files soon since > users > and developers are waiting for a release to base their productive > environments on" makes me nervous. We don't want people assuming that > code > in the Incubator has the same imprimatur as code from ASF projects. I > try > to avoid the term "release" in connection with anything related to the > Incubator because in Jakarta terminology, a "Release Build" is an > official > production package, and that is not going to come from the Incubator. > The > focus ought to be on being able to leave the incubator, not putting out > builds. But insofar as having feedback helps to build the developer > community, that's worth supporting, IMO, so long as the nature of > being in > the Incubator is properly marked and explained. Perfect. I was reading through this thread and going to make the point if no one else did, but you did it as I would have, so I'll just add... +1 geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) geir@4quarters.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org