Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 40239 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2003 00:53:46 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Dec 2003 00:53:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 52219 invoked by uid 500); 8 Dec 2003 00:53:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52142 invoked by uid 500); 8 Dec 2003 00:53:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52129 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2003 00:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx1.try.sybase.com) (130.214.10.19) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Dec 2003 00:53:28 -0000 Received: from mail.try.sybase.com (mail.try.sybase.com [130.214.10.18]) by mx1.try.sybase.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id hB7NmR228812 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:48:27 -0700 Received: from tsws1 ([10.22.120.101]) by mail.try.sybase.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB80dgk18112 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:39:42 -0700 Message-ID: <111001c3bd25$ce469e40$d3931f43@tsws1> From: "Adam R. B. Jack" To: References: Subject: Re: projects incubated by the incubator PMC Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:54:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > I don't care if there is some overlap with Wagon, nor do I care for > any further discussion about which one is better -- if I can't find > some objective criteria for evaluating software, then I obviously > don't need that software. Once I need it, I can figure out for myself > which one is better -- I don't need someone to assume that for me. > It is easier for Apache to support both projects than to arbitrarily > choose between the two. Nicely put. Apache folks have clearly & unemotionally explained to me that some times it just makes sense for teams to agree to differ, and to work amicably/respectfully, yet apart. Since we have 2 (at least) code bases with different approaches to solving the problem, I think this might be just such a case. It is frustrating that (in this day and age) there isn't a simple solution for managing repositories of jars/artefacts, downloading upon demand and keeping environments healthy. Heck, this stuff isn't rocket science, it just needs to exist & fit openly into user environments. Two are better than none... regards, Adam --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org