From general-return-2788-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Dec 01 15:11:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 58990 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 15:11:43 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 15:11:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 12502 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 15:11:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 12454 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 15:11:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 12394 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 15:11:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep03-svc.flexmail.it) (212.131.248.106) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 15:11:35 -0000 Received: from apache.org ([80.204.154.190]) by fep03-svc.flexmail.it with ESMTP id <20031201151136.FDRD16449.fep03-svc.flexmail.it@apache.org> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:11:36 +0100 Message-ID: <3FCB596A.8070608@apache.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:08:26 +0100 From: Nicola Ken Barozzi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031119 Thunderbird/0.4a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project References: <20031128212539.GA29466@clove.org> <3FCA4AD3.2000100@apache.org> <20031130201457.GD4173@clove.org> <3FCA70AE.900@apache.org> <3FCAB1A7.8080101@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <3FCAB1A7.8080101@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sam Ruby wrote: ... > 1) Have the incubator PMC identify a clear set of constraints that apply > to *all* names. Vote on them, document them, and move on. Right. What is our policy? ATM here is our rule: " Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist and check www.nameprotect.com to be sure that the name is not already trademarked for an existing software product. " A search there shows up this that is mildly related to us: "Advertising and Business" -> seems ok This said, it's evident to me that this is not enough. The only fact that we are discussing such a trivial issue so much is a *strong* indication that the name must change, or that at least the PPMC must decide on this in full autonomy. Then we have to prevent such discussions in the future by setting clearer rules. Ideas? Possible addition: "The name should not be a name of a person, geographical entity, of religious nature or generally insulting. Since the definition of 'insulting' can vary from place to place, please post the name on the lists for some time so that others can say if it has problems in some ciltures." > 2) Identify the PPMC who gets to name this project - and hold them > accountable for their decision. We are not deciding on the name but on the need or not to have a name change. In case for a name change, this will surely be the case. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org