From general-return-2853-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Dec 03 17:28:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 8607 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 17:28:07 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 17:28:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 76744 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2003 17:27:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76698 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2003 17:27:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76685 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 17:27:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailhost.clove.org) (209.237.225.73) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 17:27:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 38254 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 17:28:11 -0000 Received: from dsl017-044-108.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO gandalf.clove.org) (aaron@69.17.44.108) by grover.clove.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 17:28:11 -0000 Received: by gandalf.clove.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0D6A81CDF04; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:27:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:27:49 -0800 From: Aaron Bannert To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done Message-ID: <20031203172749.GB2854@clove.org> References: <3FCC541A.4070200@apache.org> <20031202224028.GF543@clove.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 08:04:58PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2003, at 5:40 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: [...] > > I would > >like to hear what the current Geronimo committers think about the > >vote, and if they are ok with selecting a new name (or if they are > >vehemently opposed to choosing a new name). I realize that a > >discussion about the name has already occured within the committers, > >but I don't know if that decision was unanimous. Can we get the > >committers to vote/voice their opinion here so we can finally wrap > >this up? > > They would in the PPMC. If you feel that it would be valid to have the > committers decide - something I'm really glad to see - lets use this as > a motivation to get the PPMC structure setup, get a mail list for them, > and watch them go. > > Given that PPMC decisions are subject to PMC and board oversight, > there's no risk in doing it this way. There most certainly is risk here. People want to get to work on their project, and they need to know the name is set in stone. We can't have people making logos and webpages and o.a.geronimo.foo classes when at the end of it all when it comes time to exit the incubator, they have to change everything they've been working on. Maybe you'd rather just use the PPMC as an avenue to ignore the votes of the Incubator PMC and those members who have said they want the name to change? -aaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org