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From Sam Ruby <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project
Date Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:03:45 GMT
Sander Striker wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 09:29, Bruce Snyder wrote:
>>This one time, at band camp, Berin Lautenbach said:
>>BL>> 2) Identify the PPMC who gets to name this project - and hold them 
>>BL>> accountable for their decision.
>>BL>+1.  I think the Incubator PMC is in a kind of unique position.  We are 
>>BL>trying to ensure that new projects/new committers in new projects are 
>>BL>working in "The Apache Way".  So for me, the Incubator PMC shouldn't 
>>BL>actually be voting to make the decision for the incubating project.  It 
>>BL>should simply be checking that the decision has been made appropriately. 
>>BL>  If anyone in the PMC vetoes a PPMC decision it should be on the basis 
>>BL>that the decision does not meet the ASF requirements, not on the basis 
>>BL>that we do/don't like a name (for example).
>>BL>Anything else takes the decision away from the project in inubation, and 
>>BL>I'm not sure I see how that is fostering the Apache way.
>>IMO, Berin's comments are exactly what I was thinking. 
> Do note that there were votes from the members, not neccessarily (only)
> from the Incubator PMC.

IMHO, the notion of fostering "The Apache Way" vs. making decisions for 
others applies to members too.

> Sander
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