Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 8753 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 23:32:31 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 23:32:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25840 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2003 23:32:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25770 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2003 23:32:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25756 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 23:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rocinante.rcbowen.com) (198.93.112.61) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 23:32:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rocinante.rcbowen.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8260150005 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:32:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:32:09 -0500 (EST) From: Rich Bowen X-X-Sender: rbowen@rocinante To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project In-Reply-To: <1070128528.18621.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 29 Nov 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Geronimo was an Apache was he not? So it definitley seems odd that we > can name our whole organization after the people of Geronimo but not > Geronimo himself (yes, I know the name came from "a patchy server, but > that's not obvious to anyone most of the time). For the record, Geronimo was indeed Apache, and was one of the greatest heroes, in my opinion, of that time, although the US government of the period certainly didn't share this opinion. This man, essentially single-handedly, cost the US government hundreds of thousands of dollars (1911 dollars, at that) to track him down. His few thousand men outsmarted the tens of thousands of US soldiers and Mexican soldiers that tracked him for 9 or 10 years. That's pretty impressive. Other folks worth reading about are Juh and the so-called Apache Kid. I'm currently reading "Chasing Shadows", by Shelley Bowen Hatfield (no relation ;-) which is about this time period. Fascinating stuff. Online information about these folks is sparse, and often innaccurate. Oh, and strangely enough, another great source of accurate information is "Fort Apache", starring John Wayne. -- Rich Bowen - Rbowen@RCBowen.com Apache Cookbook - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/apacheckbk/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org