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From: "Noel J. Bergman" <noel@devtech.com>
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Subject: RE: [VOTE] Official Name for "Geronimo" Project
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:45:55 -0500
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> 1) The incubator PMC is acquiring new PMC members, and will
> asymptotically aproach the list of all ASF committers who
> are involved in any way with any aspect of growth or
> regeneration of code bases.  In short, it will become the
> epitame of an uber umbrella PMC.

As you are aware, we are discussing a reorganization of the PMC that will
change its structure to be tightly related to each project.

> IMHO, the right answer is *not* to buck this up to the incubator PMC, or
> to members, or *gasp* to the board.  A much better approach would be:

> 1) Have the incubator PMC identify a clear set of constraints that apply
> to *all* names.  Vote on them, document them, and move on.

There is one, which has been documented from the beginning.  There must be a
trademark search to ensure that the name is available.  As far as I can
tell, that mandated activity never happened.

I know that a search was done of the US PTO, but as I noted at the time, not
all trademarks are registered.  I've posted references to multiple software
projects with a prior claim on the name, but the fact that there are
multiple, and they haven't pursued each other might make it harder for them
to complain about this one.  IANAL, but I'm not sure, if Geronimo is even
trademarkable for software.

Sally makes a point that the Geronimo name has stuck, and should be kept.
Roy made a comment that a condition for leaving the incubator is that the
name be changed.  I hadn't heard that before, but those are two incompatible
views.

> Identify the PPMC who gets to name this project - and hold them
> accountable for their decision.

When we complete what I hope will be the Incubator's reorganization, and we
have a Geronimo PPMC, I'm sure that will happen.

	--- Noel


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