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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:11:32 +1100
From: Berin Lautenbach <berin@ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: Re: [RT] Multiple Mentors
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Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> 
>> Nicola,
>>
>> I suppose the only slight reservation would be who is accountable?  
>> The old "Fred Bloggs is looking after that" can kick in.  I think the 
>> Incubator PMC also wants to be able to hold people accountable for 
>> inubation activities.  Gets harder with multiple people.
> 
> 
> If the accountable person fails, what can we do? Nothing.
> 

Replace them!  That's what the board would do to a PMC chair for a PMC 
that was not delivering what the board requires.

> Our goal is not to have one person accountable, as we are all 
> "accountable" as PMC members, but to have more eyes and hands working on 
> it that are also on our PMC.
> 

Yes and no.  (My favourite kind of answer.)

As far as the board is concerned (which is where the PMC reports) - 
there *is* an accountable person.  The chair of the PMC.  That doesn't 
mean that the entire PMC doesn't get involved in any given issue though. 
  As I think Noel said in a later e-mail, this is all a community process.

So - I have no issue at all with having multiple mentors.  Completely 
the opposite - I think it's a good thing.  I'm just not sure it's worth 
making it overly official.  A single "official" mentor with multiple 
helpers?

As I said in the original post - it's only a slight reservation.  I've 
just always found that if there is some single person who has official 
responsibility for something, it's generally more likely to happen.

Cheers,
	Berin


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