From general-return-2497-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Sat Nov 08 03:13:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 97038 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2003 03:13:22 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Nov 2003 03:13:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 79911 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2003 03:13:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79840 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2003 03:13:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 79827 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2003 03:13:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.64) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Nov 2003 03:13:02 -0000 Received: from franklin ([66.20.158.44]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20031108031311.RALI20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@franklin> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:13:11 -0500 From: "Alex Karasulu" To: Subject: RE: [Possible Incubation] Apache Repo Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 22:13:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <14A4284E-1144-11D8-92EF-000393B61B56@apache.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcOlUNg3pt7R6meNTMa7mtTC/4lZPQAUxq0g Message-Id: <20031108031311.RALI20018.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@franklin> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Guys, I'm afraid to get in the middle of this but I just wanted to give my perspective on it. > > If you want to call it "Incubating Ruper and have others join" it's ok > > for me, as my initial idea is to use Ruper as a starting codebase, and > > have others add stuff, but I didn't want to make this a prerequisite > > for a Repo project. > > This really smells like an extension and abstraction of what Maven > provides and initiated. Why not do this effort under their umbrella? Perhaps this could just be a Maven sub project, however because of the interest the concept of a repository has across the board, I think it should be incubated to attract people from the many corners of Apache and outside of Apache. The incubator is a good place to attract people and grow a community just around the repo concept. The lower barrier to entry for committers makes it more hmmmm nurturing of a community. I think the important thing is to end up with one de facto standard rather than have duplicated code doing the same thing all over the place. Use as Jason suggested decorators to enable any specific uses of the repository to stretch it for the various needs different groups may have. In the end Apache should be the winner. People should go to Apache to get the library in one place. You don't want to confuse users with multiple implementations. One at Avalon, another in Maven and so on. The incubator gives this initiative a clean start inviting all the players - it's a chance to make it a bit more open to people like myself. Incubation will let me put my two cents in and I know you would appreciate that in terms of the openness the incubator opens to attract new people. Once the community is formed put it back into maven. But keep it there. Don't have a repo at Avalon and XYZ and so on. Again I can't help but volunteer my 2 cents. Sincerely, Alex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org