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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicola...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Possible Incubation] Apache Repo
Date Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:29:39 GMT
peter royal wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2003, at 4:15 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> 
>> Proposal:
>> This is a new kind of incubation that I'd like to try. It's not an 
>> established project that wants to come to Apache, rather an effort 
>> that wants to try and see if it can work, similar to Geronimo but 
>> coming mainly from Apache committers.
> 
> That seems contradictory to everything I thought the incubator was. It 
> was my understanding that the incubator was for existing projects that 
> wanted to move into the Apache umbrella? To be indoctrinated in the 
> 'Apache Way'.
> Even Geronimo came to the incubator with a codebase..

Well, there is already a codebase, more than one actually. It's written 
in the mail (you have snipped it in this reply). Think about how 
Geronimo started and you have a good idea of what I envision for this.

>> Hence I propose that the Incubator PMC decides to start incubating the 
>> project as "Repo", giving it:
>>
>>  - dev list (just for code; spec discussions at repository@apache.org)
>>  - site under incubator.apache.org/projects/repo to write down the spec
>>  - CVS module 'incubator-repo' open to all Apache committers that
>>    request it and to the initial external contributors.
>>    In the CVS module the developers can place their current codebases
>>    that they donate and we wait and see what happens.
> 
> What's the benefit of doing this in the incubator vs sf.net or java.net?

It has already been done there, at http://www.krysalis.org/ruper/ .

The developers of Ruper in the meantime have become Apache committers 
(two for Gump and one is coming in with JUDDI). The issue here is that 
Maven already has some code for this, and http://greebo.sourceforge.net/ 
is partecipating too.

If you want to call it "Incubating Ruper and have others join" it's ok 
for me, as my initial idea is to use Ruper as a starting codebase, and 
have others add stuff, but I didn't want to make this a prerequisite for 
a Repo project.

> If this goes through, how is this not the start of the incubator 
> becoming a 'sandbox' for ASF committers?

Unfortunatley no.

-- 
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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