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From "Andreas Kuckartz" <A.Kucka...@ping.de>
Subject Re: [Website] Project homepage
Date Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:04:59 GMT
I have stopped reading the Apache Incubator mailing list some time ago due
to such debates.

If you think that it is important to create new senseless rules for new
projects - do so. But please do not create new useless work for those
projects which already exist in the Incubator.

Thanks,
Andreas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <noel@devtech.com>
To: <general@incubator.apache.org>
Cc: <lenya-dev@cocoon.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Website] Project homepage


> Dion Gillard wrote:
> > James Strachan wrote:
> > > > Lenya, which has a URI, http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/,
> > > > outside of the incubator domain.
> > > Hmmm, how come Lenya got a URI? Can we have one too? I guess so if
> > > Lenya already has?
> > As an outsider, this is very confusing. Lenya 'is not an ASF project',
as
> > it's being incubated, but the URL sure makes it seem like it is a sub
> > project of cocoon.
>
> In total fairness to Lenya, the first paragraph of their home page talks
> about incubation.  However, I agree as a policy matter that the site
should
> be moved, with a redirect put in place, as described below.  After a
project
> leaves the incubator, a redirect can be put in the incubator's .htaccess
to
> reference its new location.
>
> To demonstrate the technique, and further illustrating why web-sites
should
> be maintained in CVS (as Lenya's is :-)), I just issued the following
> command:
>
>   cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.apache.org:/home/cvspublic \
>        checkout -d lenya cocoon-site/site/lenya
>
> from /www/incubator.apache.org.  You will notice that a copy of the lenya
> site is now at http://incubator.apache.org/lenya.  All that is left for
the
> Cocoon project to do now is to place:
>
>   Redirect Permanent /lenya http://incubator.apache.org/lenya
>
> in .htaccess in their site root, and the location change should be
> transparent to all.  I won't do that, though.  That is a change for them
to
> make.
>
> When the lenya site is updated, someone just needs to do:
>
>   cd /www/incubator.apache.org/lenya
>   cvs update -Pd
>
> rather than doing the exact same thing in /www/cocoon.apache.org/lenya.
>
> The process is simple, and should not be disruptive to their progress at
> all.  It is actually rather cool that things can be this simple.
>
> --- Noel
>
> cc: lenya-dev@
>
>
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