Sam Ruby wrote: > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > >> On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400 >> "Noel J. Bergman" wrote: >> >>> Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit >>> more >>> involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list >>> address changed from james-dev@jakarta.apache.org to >>> server-dev@james.apache.org. Moving the web site was easy. >> >> I'd like to oppose this. (Sorry) > > I'd like us to all step back and take a look at the bigger picture. > > Apparently, the root of this is a statement that something about the > incubation process of Lenya raised hackles. I suggest that there may be > multiple root causes for this. > > Putting incubator as a part of the name is a form of disclaimer. One > that is relatively expensive. I, too, would rather we explore cheaper > alternatives before we decided to require this for every project. > > It seems to me a disclaimer on the website, perhaps also in the root > directory of the associated CVS trees, and a process which prevents any > official "release" to be created by projects in incubation should be > more than sufficient. Sorry, but this has not worked. I knew that many did not want renamings to occur, being touted as "expensive", so I still stand behind my last proposal (that has been trimmed here) which seems to me like a possible "compromise": 1 - the websites are placed in incubator.apache.org/projects/subproject 2 - these projects have as project logo the Incubator Logo 3 - They all have as a bottom line disclaimer a note that the roject is in incubation Note that point 2 and 3 have not much to do with infrastructure, and point 1 is not under direct control of this list, as the project members would still have access to the incubator-site module, as part of the project. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org