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From: "Noel J. Bergman" <noel@devtech.com>
To: <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:01:52 -0400
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Sam Ruby wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Jakarta has too much on its plate and should probably be closed to new
> > projects until more of the existing ones are promoted to TLP status,
> > so I'd suggest DB, instead.  But it ought not come to that, given the
> > Board's TLP directive.

> Embedded in that first sentence is a statement that I think is a bit too
> strong, IMHO.

Perhaps, but if so, not by much (I didn't say IMO, because I think that this
whole discussion is one of personal opinion).  And I am not anti-Jakarta.
It just seems encumbered by size.

> Jakarta's growth rate has slowed down to a near stop.

Cause or effect?  :-)

> I would support JetSpeed+Pluto+WSRP4J+possibly others
> eventually becoming [a TLP].

Agreed.  Other candidates that have been suggested by one person or another
include:

   Turbine
   Velocity
   Lucene (or to db.apache.org?)
   Struts

separately or in some semantically related combination.  Lucene, for
example, doesn't get nearly the "mindshare" that it ought.

> One thing that should be abundantly clear is that every Jakarta code
> base that has desired to become a top level project has had the full
> support of the Jakarta PMC in achieving this goal.

I don't doubt it, and the proof ought to be in the ones that have already
done so.  I do ask if the PMC doing anything to help encourage other
projects to matriculate?  I must stress that is a question, not a backhanded
comment.  I really have no idea.

	--- Noel


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