Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 45952 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2003 15:50:34 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Sep 2003 15:50:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 78456 invoked by uid 500); 27 Sep 2003 15:50:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78375 invoked by uid 500); 27 Sep 2003 15:50:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78358 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2003 15:50:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO striker.xs4all.nl) (213.84.19.217) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Sep 2003 15:50:25 -0000 Received: from cheetah (cheetah.striker.nl [192.168.0.10]) by striker.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BB294A716A for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:50:26 +0200 (CEST) From: "Sander Striker" To: Subject: RE: Exit Criteria Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:50:26 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3F758386.1060905@apache.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:mcconnell@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 2:33 PM >>Stephen McConnell wrote: > I think the real reason is that I have a lot of scepticism about the > successful functioning of the Incubator. I imaging future scenarios > where candidates are keep waiting with little or no feedback while the > Incubator PMC debates some highly important and engaging topic, ignoring > operational responsibilities. I imagine a future where a project is > left to its own devices because a Shepherd has wondered off into the > mountains and the Sponsor is preoccupied with greater things. And when this happens, we have to stop and ask ourselves if the ASF is trying to grow too fast IMHO. I can see that growth is normal. I'd like to see us keep growing controlled and for the right reasons, instead of growing because of growth. This will mean that there is going to be fallout, which is unfortunate, but not necessarily bad for the ASF. Sander --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org