Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 15369 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2003 05:53:10 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Sep 2003 05:53:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 71245 invoked by uid 500); 23 Sep 2003 05:52:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 71171 invoked by uid 500); 23 Sep 2003 05:52:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: no List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 71155 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2003 05:52:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.sauria.com) (64.38.174.106) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Sep 2003 05:52:46 -0000 Received: from sauria.com (boo.sauria.com [192.168.0.10]) by mail.sauria.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100CEBF3A for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F6FDFB9.7080603@sauria.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:52:57 -0700 From: Ted Leung User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: roles and responsibilities References: <20030922235048.OECC22174.mta06.mail.mel.aone.net.au@[127.0.0.1]> In-Reply-To: <20030922235048.OECC22174.mta06.mail.mel.aone.net.au@[127.0.0.1]> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.81.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 9/22/2003 4:50 PM, Berin Lautenbach wrote: >>From: Rodent of Unusual Size >> >> >>what's the role of the incubator pmc in this? at the least, it's a set >>of passionate asf people who are essentially in agreement about what >>makes something a genuine 'apache'-style project, who review the >>reports of the mentors and make suggestions and eventually vote on >>whether the podling has become self-sustaining in the 'apache way' of >>doing things. in a more perfect world, the pmc members will involve >>themselve more deeply than that in at least some of the podlings, so >>they can observe at first hand, possibly providing guidance at first >>hand (though preferably through the mentor). >> >> >> > >Is it worth setting up some regular reviews of >incubating projects? Once every three months or >the like? If there is a requirement to review >reports, then maybe that should be formalised? > > From the podlings point of view, I think that this would be good. Actually from any point of view. > > >>what's the role of a 'sponsoring pmc' in this? solely as an observer >>until the podling graduates. >> >> >> > >Not sure I'm comfortable with this. I'm not a >very good Apache project if all I do is site >around and observe. If I say "I want this" then >I should have some form of responsibility (and I >agree this needs to be put in the form of an >individual) to the outcome. Not just as an >observer. > > I must have missed this the first time around. I agree with Berin here. Before the incubator, all the responsibility would have been on the sponsoring PMC. I think that sponsoring PMCs need to take an active role in helping projects move through the incubator. Ted --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org